[TxCyclist]

I don't understand why our tax money is going via the FDA to investigating Lance Armstrong's drug use half a decade ago.

Come on.

[Roadhouse]

Originally Posted by Dean

I don't understand why our tax money is going via the FDA to investigating Lance Armstrong's drug use half a decade ago.

Come on.

because our tax money funded at least half of US Team Postal of which the money given to them, in part, was used to fund their doping program. that's not what our federal government had in mind when they sponsored them and misuse of federal monies under any circumstance equates to being a federal crime.

and Novitzky is a former Internal Revenue Services Special Agent.

[Industry_Hack]

Originally Posted by funetical

Is his mustache as amazing as I think it is?

It is. Even more amazing was watching his daughter, who was about ten at the time, put away sushi like it was going out of style.

Dean - it's the American way. Should we pardon Billy The Kid?

[funetical]

Originally Posted by Roadhouse

because our tax money funded at least half of US Team Postal of which the money given to them, in part, was used to fund their doping program. that's not what our federal government had in mind when they sponsored them and misuse of federal monies under any circumstance equates to being a federal crime.

and Novitzky is a former Internal Revenue Services Special Agent.

They shouldn't have given federal monies period. My government is supposed to provide law and order, not money to bankroll bikes.

Originally Posted by Industry_Hack

It is. Even more amazing was watching his daughter, who was about ten at the time, put away sushi like it was going out of style.

Dean - it's the American way. Should we pardon Billy The Kid?

That makes me happy, all of it.

No, but we shouldn't be launching investigation into his crimes either.

[Roadhouse]

funny you should mention bikes. we (our federal money) certainly did not pay for them, they were provided by Trek which, btw, Team Postal (i'd have to assume under the direct authority of Johan) was selling them on e-bay, also and allegedly to finance Team Postal's doping program.

[funetical]

Originally Posted by Roadhouse

funny you should mention bikes. we (our federal money) certainly did not pay for them, they were provided by Trek which, btw, Team Postal (i'd have to assume under the direct authority of Johan) was selling them on e-bay, also and allegedly to finance Team Postal's doping program.

I meant it as a generalization, so I will explain further.

The government has no business giving money to people on bikes, to ride in the tour of anything ever. The fact that government spending and waste are nuts high, that we are going to have to do something, and the fact the US postal service still sponsors, or ever has sponsored, a team baffles me. Baffles me to the point of anger.

[Industry_Hack]

Wiki wiki wiki:

Since its reorganization into an independent organization, the USPS has become self-sufficient and has not directly received taxpayer-dollars since the early 1980s with the minor exception of subsidies for costs associated with the disabled and overseas voters. However it is currently borrowing money from the U.S. Treasury to pay its deficits. The decline of mail volume due to increased usage of e-mail has forced the postal service to look to other sources of revenue while cutting costs to maintain this financial balance.

[funetical]

So then they are taking taxpayer money.

[Roadhouse]

Originally Posted by Industry_Hack

Wiki wiki wiki:

Since its reorganization into an independent organization, the USPS has become self-sufficient and has not directly received taxpayer-dollars since the early 1980s with the minor exception of subsidies for costs associated with the disabled and overseas voters. However it is currently borrowing money from the U.S. Treasury to pay its deficits. The decline of mail volume due to increased usage of e-mail has forced the postal service to look to other sources of revenue while cutting costs to maintain this financial balance.

So it was marketing for USPS as it is with all sponsoring companies but I'm a bit confused now, if USPS is and has been an independent organization then I'm taking it that the borrowed money from the US Treasury or at least part of it is what they sponsored Team Postal with? If that is the link to the federal monies being investigated for use in this fraud then wouldn't there need to be a paper trail to prove that that is the case? I mean, if it's all the independent organizations own money then the US government has no right to claim that money as their own, right? I'm certain there's a link from one to the other but only after seeing your wiki wiki wiki explanation of USPS am I left wondering exactly where..?