[Industry_Hack]

Originally Posted by Echihn

23 years, racing 17 years.
edit 21 years, sorry just woke up. And thats racing 15 years.

Originally Posted by Echihn

I'm 24. Been riding since age 3.

And look at the edit time. Not only was that post 2 seconds after I woke up and sat at the comp to check my emails, it was without thinking. Reason why I left the original rather than just ninja edit.

And its funny, because your age means squat in the race game, its time spent racing in leagues that does.

[Echihn]

Originally Posted by Industry_Hack

No worries, your just outdated in IMO. Not uncommon for a child to be on the bike age 3. Racing in the 5-6 class. I didn't race in a league right away of course. We had our own little "races" around the neighborhood until I found the ABA.

[Industry_Hack]

You suck at either lying or math.

[Echihn]

Originally Posted by Industry_Hack

You suck at either lying or math.

lol. Nice man. And it turns out your just a typical prick of the site. Same with your airsoft comment. Your just another typical old ass grumpy man.

And its funny you try and pull me out on "lying". Its you who need to get your facts right, especially with gate starts.

And stop with the spelling crap. I could care less. I have WAAAAY better things to be doing.

now, answer these questions.

What leagues did you ride in, and do now. How many years and what era did you race in. What are you involved with currently to make you know and understand both pro ranks, sponsor ships etc.

Now, just because your a "writer" doesn't give you any qualifications. What do you physically do to qualify you.

Also, if your questioning my riding history, I'd be happy to snap pics of the dozens of trophies I have sitting around my house.


I'm not the one that said "some people have even seen smoke come off pro's tires". LOL, what a load of crock man. Get YOUR stuff straight. This is my last comment to you. Btw your bogus remarks and your airsoft comment, your just not worth the time of day.

To add : if your calling me a liar about my age (uhh, when did I ever originally say 21 or 23 was my age? I'd be happy to also snap a photo of my license age if you wish). I bet you even know more about beer than me also... haha, yea, when hell freezes over on that one.

[Industry_Hack]

Hmmm. I'm neither grumpy nor old. Do you not realize that it was in this very thread that you've stated your age was 21, 23, and 24? Either way, you're not old enough to be senile, but most people don't have trouble remembering their age until they're much older than me.

I made one comment about your spelling. Just one. But that's obviously a sore subject for you.

As far as your questions, I'm not going to bother answering them. When you reach a certain level of maturity, you realize that you don't need to go on the internet and brag about yourself, nor do you need to justify yourself to anyone else.

I've only been into BMX since the mid 1970s. I didn't get to race in any sanctioned races as a kid, but when my bro worked at Redline, he got me a couple of bikes, which I raced against my friends, including the Kastens at all our local tracks. I could have just as easily gotten a Jag, since we rode with Kelly Roker too. Or maybe a PK Ripper, since my friend's dad welded for SE Racing. I did have a Mongoose also, since they were only twenty minutes away, in Chatsworth. Back then, I didn't realize that SoCal was the center of the start of BMX.

Fast forward to my 35th birthday, and I'm living on the beach in Australia, with a good job with the NSW police, plenty of extra pocket change, and my own parts importing business. Many of my clients were my age, and into BMX racing. I got invited out to the track, did a few laps on a borrowed bike, and got hooked again. So we'd all take our families out to the track, have a big social event, get at each other's throats for a lap, then go for a few beers after the race. I had nothing to prove, just out to have a good time with some friends.

As far as the "smoke off the tire" comment, that was actually shown in a video. It was either an X Games DVD, or it was from the race Bubba held in his yard, where the winner got a briefcase full of $1 bills. I don't recall which, but those are the only two videos I watched, so it was one of them.

I'm not worth the time of day to you, but you'll comment again anyway, because you just can't help yourself.

[Echihn]

Originally Posted by Industry_Hack

Hmmm. I'm neither grumpy nor old. Do you not realize that it was in this very thread that you've stated your age was 21, 23, and 24? Either way, you're not old enough to be senile, but most people don't have trouble remembering their age until they're much older than me.

I made one comment about your spelling. Just one. But that's obviously a sore subject for you.

As far as your questions, I'm not going to bother answering them. When you reach a certain level of maturity, you realize that you don't need to go on the internet and brag about yourself, nor do you need to justify yourself to anyone else.

I've only been into BMX since the mid 1970s. I didn't get to race in any sanctioned races as a kid, but when my bro worked at Redline, he got me a couple of bikes, which I raced against my friends, including the Kastens at all our local tracks. I could have just as easily gotten a Jag, since we rode with Kelly Roker too. Or maybe a PK Ripper, since my friend's dad welded for SE Racing. I did have a Mongoose also, since they were only twenty minutes away, in Chatsworth. Back then, I didn't realize that SoCal was the center of the start of BMX.

Fast forward to my 35th birthday, and I'm living on the beach in Australia, with a good job with the NSW police, plenty of extra pocket change, and my own parts importing business. Many of my clients were my age, and into BMX racing. I got invited out to the track, did a few laps on a borrowed bike, and got hooked again. So we'd all take our families out to the track, have a big social event, get at each other's throats for a lap, then go for a few beers after the race. I had nothing to prove, just out to have a good time with some friends.

As far as the "smoke off the tire" comment, that was actually shown in a video. It was either an X Games DVD, or it was from the race Bubba held in his yard, where the winner got a briefcase full of $1 bills. I don't recall which, but those are the only two videos I watched, so it was one of them.

I'm not worth the time of day to you, but you'll comment again anyway, because you just can't help yourself.

o you were a cop. I figured there was something to your "stigma" and grumpniess. Just like every other cop I meet cool or not.

And you can do anything In video editing, including exaggerate dust.


And no, I didn't state my age was 21 or 23. Thats years riding. Are you really kidding about that part. Do you really honestly think I need to lie about my age. Honestly? But then again, you were working with police so your skeptic of just about everything.

And btw, go ask the guys over at AS if I would need to "lie about my age".

[Industry_Hack]

You shouldn't make assumptions. I was never a sworn officer.

[Rit]

Originally Posted by Ted

I've always been curios. There aren't any bicycle scouts hanging out at high schools or are there? and I just realized I misspelled the thread header.

Hi, I'm new to the forum today. I road raced for 25 years, 12 yrs as Cat2.

I'm not clear as to what type of racing you're looking for, but for USCF or USA Cycling, you'll need to find a racing club first (reg. with USA Cycling as a racing club). Next is your licence showing you are a member of this club (attached).

I noticed someone posted it's easy to move up, right, no, it will take LOTS of dedicated riding and spacific training once you have your miles in (say 800 to a 1000). As a Cat5, you're looking at roughly 150 to 200 a week, not easy. You'll move up in catagories by how many races you win or place in and have signed off by you district rep.

I was mostly crits and track because of my build (and I loved the bunch sprints). If you're the thin or slight build type, you'll love killing guys like me on hills

this should get you started and good luck. I had many good years of racing and traveling, it was worth it.

[Echihn]

Originally Posted by Rit

Hi, I'm new to the forum today. I road raced for 25 years, 12 yrs as Cat2.

I'm not clear as to what type of racing you're looking for, but for USCF or USA Cycling, you'll need to find a racing club first (reg. with USA Cycling as a racing club). Next is your licence showing you are a member of this club (attached).

I noticed someone posted it's easy to move up, right, no, it will take LOTS of dedicated riding and spacific training once you have your miles in (say 800 to a 1000). As a Cat5, you're looking at roughly 150 to 200 a week, not easy. You'll move up in catagories by how many races you win or place in and have signed off by you district rep.

I was mostly crits and track because of my build (and I loved the bunch sprints). If you're the thin or slight build type, you'll love killing guys like me on hills

this should get you started and good luck. I had many good years of racing and traveling, it was worth it.

That is what people fail to understand... the amount of time pro's have put into riding, training, and pure dedicating their lives to the cause.

Sure it's easy to rank up per say, if you are dumping all your time and effort into it. My point in all my posts was it's not as simple as people think. The avg kid thinks he will just be invited to events, and just handed everything. So far from reality. Like I said, pro riding ranks takes more discipline than making it through boot camp in the marines (something many people could never ever do..)

[Rit]

Sponsership:

After you join a recognized USCF club and have your licence (anyone can get one ~$60.00) and fork over your membership dues, ~$40.00 per year, you'll have plenty of riders who race to advise you. A well established racing club will have sponsers already. A rider who establishes himself as placing well in USCF races will get a "cut" of that sponcer's money as expence money. When Windsor, first, then Cannondale was a sponser, I would receive "mileage" (to & from races, to Montreal once), entries, uniform, frames (Cannondale), wheels and if you were really good a full bike. Once, three of use were handed full Gitane (sp?) bikes to keep. Overall, it will depend on how good the riders are in your club and how good your club showning is each year. That's what draws the better sponcers. Like good marks in school draw good colleges.