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Old 08-05-2010, 12:16 AM   #11
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Nope, he just drank a full bottle of haterade that morning!


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Old 08-05-2010, 12:49 AM   #12
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i used to be the biggest Lance fan up until last week when that nightline news story came out, all of which Floyd has said in text before so nothing new came out, but it hit me like a ton of bricks that there is just no conceivable way Lance could do what he has done without doping.

a part of me still hopes i'm wrong about Lance as it could be a possibility but i have a feeling i'm not. sad, really, the state of cycling and the day time drama it's become.
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Old 10-11-2010, 03:15 AM   #13
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Landis is a fraud through n' through.
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Old 10-12-2010, 03:48 AM   #14
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Landis also stands to gain a percentage of the money collected via this federal investigation.
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Old 10-13-2010, 10:43 PM   #15
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Landis also stands to gain a percentage of the money collected via this federal investigation.
How so? Book deals?
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Old 10-14-2010, 03:12 AM   #16
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No, by law. All monetary value recovered by the government from Lance is partial to Landis. There was a thread posted about it with the link. I'll try to find it and post the link here. Give me some time.
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Old 10-14-2010, 09:10 AM   #17
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Did lance need drugs?

when they tested lances blood oxygen intake levels back when he was on the U.S. national teem, he had the highest O2 levels on record. they also measured his lax levels and they were almost unreadable. He is a freak of nature. When he goes up a hill his legs don't hurt as bad as the rest of the pack so he can push himself that much harder.

Most bike racers retire at thirty five and he was still going at a level that most of the riders on the Tour would have given anything for.(23 of 170). Right now how many riders in the U.S. today could con peat with this "old man"?

The facts seem to point to the concussion that he did not need drugs he naturally "cheated". If somebody is quicker going up hills to make things more fair do we have to add lead weights to his bike?
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Old 10-14-2010, 10:43 PM   #18
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Jeannie Longo is now 52 and still at the front of the pack on the world stage. Never has there ever been a need to question her ethics.

Btw, Leipheimer crushed Lance's previous world record at Leadville recently by something like 16 minutes.

The EPO must be extra strength on Radio Shack now days...
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Old 10-15-2010, 05:45 AM   #19
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By Amy Shipley
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, September 4, 2010

Lance Armstrong, who has been under investigation by federal prosecutors in Los Angeles for several months, could also face a probe by the Justice Department if it intervenes in a whistle-blower lawsuit filed against Armstrong in federal court earlier this year.
The lawsuit, which is under seal, was filed by former cyclist Floyd Landis, a source with knowledge of the suit said Friday night. Around the time Landis alleged to federal agents in May that Armstrong engaged in doping on his former U.S. Postal Service teams, he also filed the whistle-blower suit, the source said.
The lawsuit filed under the U.S. False Claims Act named Armstrong and a number of Armstrong's former business associates as defendants, the source said.
The Wall Street Journal first reported the lawsuit in its online edition Friday night. The newspaper said a U.S. Postal Service spokesperson declined to comment on the lawsuit because "this matter is under review by the Department of Justice."
Citizens are entitled to file claims that allege a fraud has been committed against the government, and the Justice Department may decide to prosecute the claims. If Landis's suit is the first such against Armstrong and his associates, he stands to receive a portion of any money the government recovers.


Armstrong has repeatedly denied doping, and one of his attorneys, Mark Fabiani, called Landis - who denied doping for four years before coming clean - "a serial liar, an epic cheater, and a swindler," adding in an e-mailed statement that "What remains a complete mystery is why the government would devote a penny of the taxpayer's money to help Floyd Landis further his vile, cheating ambitions."
The U.S. Postal Service paid more than $30 million to sponsor Armstrong's cycling team from 2001 to '04, the Journal reported. The payments went to a management company called Tailwind Sports.
A Justice Department attorney and U.S. Postal inspector last week independently requested documents from a 2005 arbitration that involved Armstrong, the Journal reported.
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U.S. Mulls Joining Cycling Lawsuit - WSJ.com

"As a whistle-blower, Mr. Landis could collect 30% of any money the government recovers."


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