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Old 06-20-2012, 12:32 AM   #11
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Old 06-20-2012, 12:37 AM   #12
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Old 06-22-2012, 11:49 PM   #13
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I ride for fun.
See that's the problem. You are only supposed to ride for cardboard checks, KOMs and cheek smooches from models. How could you not know that????

Strava:
Absolutely tragic horrible thing that happened. We've lost another cyclist, and that's terrible. Youve got to feel for the family.

Could it have been prevented? Who knows, one variable changes in that ride and we probably arent discussing this.

Should the segment even exist? Probably not, but then is that a form of censorship if it (and ones like it) gets removed? I think it's insane to chase KOMs downhill, other people may feel its perfectly fine.

I will admit, I chase KOMs all the time, however they are always uphill. I couldn't imagine leaving my 10-month- old daughter and wife without a father/husband because of a decision I made on my bike. My wife has made me swear to her I will never do that now that we've got our newest roommate.

McDonalds:
That woman should have been sued for her inability to escape being clueless. Unless you order iced coffee, 99/100 times it's coming hot to scalding and you can't be dumb enough to think otherwise. now mcd's MAY have been responsible for the lid being in tight, but honestly, who is stupid enough to put a fresh cup of coffee between their legs and drive off? The case should've been laughed out of court.

Starbucks gives you water hot enough to melt your tongue for tea. It took me ONE order a few years back to learn to always let it breathe.

I felt the cup, it almost hurt my hand to hold let alone drink, and yet I made the decision to take a sip. Pretty stupid on my part. You're telling me this person couldn't feel how hot it was with her legs? Even if you've got pants on you can feel it.

Same thing happened at home when my wife made chicken broth from the stock (its been great for my low back disc issues). You have to boil it to drink it. She serves me up a fresh mug, i take a swig, the BLAHHHH!!! I spit it out because it scalds my tongue.

She didn't warn me, it was implied it was hot. Did I sue her? No because it was my decision. Could I have? I probably could have and won, and thats pretty pathetic.
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Old 06-23-2012, 12:17 AM   #14
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You are making a lot of ASSUMPTIONS. Assumptions the jury did not make because they had the FACTS.
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Old 06-23-2012, 12:36 AM   #15
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You're right. I assumed my wife wasn't trying to cash in early on my life insurance policy.
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Old 06-29-2012, 02:33 PM   #16
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Interesting new point of view

I found reading this interesting. I don't use Strava, but it is something to think about. Would Strava ever do this? I sure hope not, but you never know.

http://www.bikerumor.com/2012/06/28/use-strava-get-sued/#more-45469
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Old 06-29-2012, 03:00 PM   #17
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This whole social networking competition thing is stupid; ridiculously stupid. I think Strava appeals to the hidden egomaniacal narcissistic person in our psyche. We all have it. Its what has driven the species. Anyway, I think Strava sucks you in, the way facebook sucks you in, it garners competition and bragging over "friends" you do not know.

Personal stupidity? Yes. Responsibile assessment of risk vs. benefit? Not in my opinion. Frivolous lawsuit? IMHO, yes and no. Yes it is frivolous but at the same time, I think a product designed to social engineer its users is, well, evil.
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Wow, I do use Strava and have participated in a few of the local KOM's. Competitive spirit in me I guess. a note: I only use the ASCENT KoM it never even occurred to me to do descent.

As far as my thoughts on this lawsuit? Not shocked at all, but certainly in the crowd that calls it stup. Err, I mean frivolous.

Call me naive, but I hardly feel the Strava app was designed to be a Social engineering tool. I feel it is just a clever commodity for sale in a niche market. Never been one to worry about the diabolical evil geniuses conspiracy theories.

All that said I still feel bad for the family of the deceased. Pray they find the peace they are searching for in the correct manner vs the empty litigation efforts they are currently using.
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well judging only by the posted artical, i go with the personal accountability. No one made him do the ride or break the speed limit. I don't see how you could hold strava accountable for an idividuals decisions. thats like holding youtube responsible for someone watching a rock climbing or a base jumping video and deciding to do it, with it resulting in a horrible accident.
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well judging only by the posted artical, i go with the personal accountability. No one made him do the ride or break the speed limit. I don't see how you could hold strava accountable for an idividuals decisions. thats like holding youtube responsible for someone watching a rock climbing or a base jumping video and deciding to do it, with it resulting in a horrible accident.
Careful bone you just gave a bunch of people a new idea for a lawsuit


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