Great point 54 and I usually carry 2 bottles almost anytime I ride. Never can tell what might happen and it's good to be ready. I have never used a Camelback, I suppose it's sort of different for a roadie. I am still a freshman at this cycling thing.

Another thing, if I am on a 100 mile ride, it better be supported. or I'm in trouble anyway. I just thought this Veleau 42 was cool looking and it makes my bike look less busy, if that make sense, no bottle cages and bottles. You can tell I'm new, most old roadies could care less about looks so long as the bikes has everything. Thanks for looking and your reply.