[Brent]

spds all the way all else are shallow copies

[hophead]

Originally Posted by Brent

spds all the way all else are shallow copies

How are Eggbeaters a copy of an SPD?

[Brent]

Originally Posted by hophead

How are Eggbeaters a copy of an SPD?

Maybe the word should be imitation not copy the spd is the original all others are trying to imitate with patent in infringement,spds give you the best pedal attachment IMHO have tried other pedal and they just don't stand up to our west coast wet and mud use 770s on my xc bike and 647s on my free ride bike nothing else even comes close.

[photosbymark]

Originally Posted by Sickmont

From what some of my buddies say its basically a weight thing. But then again, these cats are hardcore weight-freaks anyways. No offense, but i prefer my big ass platforms.

Well I am a bit like you, in that I wouldn't have a bike that if I needed to ride it in a regular shoe I couldn't. In my case I have a campus pedal. Its a platform on one side and an SPD on the other.

One thing I never understood is why SPD has two different types of cleats. One is a release outward only and the other will release in any direction. They put the out only with the pedals, but is that really the best or are they just too cheap to give you the better cleat to begin with. Charging an extra 20 kinda ticks me off if they already have the die and can stamp the medal slightly differently and give me a better product for about the same thing it cost them. Just doesn't seem right.

[Brent]

Originally Posted by photosbymark

Well I am a bit like you, in that I wouldn't have a bike that if I needed to ride it in a regular shoe I couldn't. In my case I have a campus pedal. Its a platform on one side and an SPD on the other.

One thing I never understood is why SPD has two different types of cleats. One is a release outward only and the other will release in any direction. They put the out only with the pedals, but is that really the best or are they just too cheap to give you the better cleat to begin with. Charging an extra 20 kinda ticks me off if they already have the die and can stamp the medal slightly differently and give me a better product for about the same thing it cost them. Just doesn't seem right.

the 51s only release outward and are preferred by the x country crowd and the 56s release in both directions and are preferred by the down hill free ride crowd
its not that one is better than the other just different I personally prefer the 51's for all riding they hold the pedal better when I'm going nuts

[hophead]

Originally Posted by Brent

Maybe the word should be imitation not copy the spd is the original all others are trying to imitate with patent in infringement,spds give you the best pedal attachment IMHO have tried other pedal and they just don't stand up to our west coast wet and mud use 770s on my xc bike and 647s on my free ride bike nothing else even comes close.

The only similarity between SPD's and Eggbeaters is that they are both clipless pedals.

You are the first person who I have ever heard claim that SPD's are better in mud. The open design of the Eggbeater pedal makes mud and ice almost a non issue. I switched to beaters from SPD's for just that reason.

[Brent]

Originally Posted by hophead

The only similarity between SPD's and Eggbeaters is that they are both clipless pedals.

You are the first person who I have ever heard claim that SPD's are better in mud. The open design of the Eggbeater pedal makes mud and ice almost a non issue. I switched to beaters from SPD's for just that reason.

Don't get me wrong eggbeaters do shed mud slightly better than spds but they do not stand up to the constant abuse our winter mud and sludge give them,I have a set of 540s that I rode on my xc bike for years my riding partner rode egg beaters and he was having constant problems every winter with cleats and pedals giving up the ghost and for free riding there is no pedal better than the 647 unless you love flats and then its the mentals

[DGM]

Originally Posted by Mootsguy

Eggbeaters are hard to beat. Plus they have the benefit of not being Shimano made.

Hard to beat because they break and you can't ride your bike.

Egg beaters are nice for the availability of all parts used in every pedal. You'll need that when they wear out and break all the time.


Okay, all bashing aside:

Crank brother's pedals leave exposed parts dangling down below. If you live in a rocky environment, or pedal strike often, this can be problematic. The tops of the springs are where your pedal is supported. This means that the "platform" under your shoe is quite small. This can cause wear to the bottom of your shoe as well, eventually causing play to develop. Crank bros has "fixed" this problem by selling you a special plate you place between the cleat and shoe.

Shimano pedals support the shoe through the cleat, or the body of the pedal. Depending on the model of the pedal, the exact shoe you're using and how it interfaces. Not only does this eliminate or reduce shoe wear, it can improve the feel under your foot. Super stiff carbon shoes can't tell the difference, but softer shoes can.

Also the bearings in crank bros pedals are ****, shimanos are better. The best ever? Meh, not as good as Time in my opinion, but the complete package of spd is pretty nice.

And for those who buy crank bros for weight savings are just ****ing losers.

[Bubblehead10MM]

I see that the subject of pedals always gets a lively partisan debate going,
So how about that 3rd or 4th party player I saw just one mention of the Pro Tonlocks? Has anyone used any magnetic pedals? I'm Intrigued but I'm not finding any info on the web or here on the forum.

[joemorreale]

I've been using spd pedals on my road bikes for over 8 years. Greatest thing about them is you never have to replace cleats. I have Northwave road shoes with adapters that I use every day. I still have a pair of shoes with recessed cleats if I know I'm going to go somewhere where there is going to be stopping/walking.