[chh55]

If there are indeed such things as carbon fiber knives, as I'm sure there are, how does airport security deal with that???

[London]

chh55: I giggled a little when you earlier expressed a disdain for guns and had moved to Sweden. (thinking you'ld escaped the Wild West) I was a member of the US biathlon team in the late 70s. We competed all over Scandinavia. Sweden, it turned out, has an even higher per capita percentage of gun owners than the USA. They ski better too. They always shot out lights out and skied away to faster times to boot.

The difference between Sweden and the US is that Sweden is a homogeneous, socialist country that has far less poverty and social tension within. Less anger, less violence. Guns are not the makers of violence, they only make is a bit easier to express same. What we need in this US is more of a northern European social model. And that ain't gonna happen......ever. Good luck in the land of frozen trigger fingers. I dig Sweden too.

[Industry_Hack]

Originally Posted by chh55

If there are indeed such things as carbon fiber knives, as I'm sure there are, how does airport security deal with that???

Carbon sniffing dogs.

When I arrived in New Zealand, the cutest girl in a little uniform with a beagle puppy came up to me and started chatting. I was so stoked until I realized the dog was sniffing my bags for drugs, fruit, and who knows what else.

[funetical]

Originally Posted by Industry_Hack

A man on a bicycle with his son should not need a gun to defend himself. There should be no reason for him to have one. Even if he did, he was shot at from behind, so there's a good chance it wouldn't have done him any good.

Until someone figures out a way to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and crazy people, I will exercise my right to legally carry one, and hope I never need to use it.

There's always a reason to carry a gun. You can't anticipate your use for one. It's like carrying a condom in your younger years. Did it mean you were going to get any? No. It just meant you were ready if it went down. I think the problem doesn't lie in the wrong people having guns I think it's in the right people not having them.

[London]

Originally Posted by funetical

There's always a reason to carry a gun. You can't anticipate your use for one. It's like carrying a condom in your younger years. Did it mean you were going to get any? No. It just meant you were ready if it went down. I think the problem doesn't lie in the wrong people having guns I think it's in the right people not having them.

Spoken like a true Texan. I'm with you Mr. Wayne, even if I do hate your bike licensing scheme over on the other thread.

[whyeyebike]

Originally Posted by funetical

There's always a reason to carry a gun. You can't anticipate your use for one. It's like carrying a condom in your younger years. Did it mean you were going to get any? No. It just meant you were ready if it went down.

That was a fantastic analogy!!!!!

[CTD50]

OK, so deadeye the fireman stopped the cyclist for a safety issue? Truly unsafe, or just his opinion that cycling that street with his son in the seat at all was unsafe? No details on that. But the gun was WAY over the top -- "Don't wanna listen to me about safety? Then I'll shoot yo ass!"

Good thing for him -- and more than half the US population -- that stupidity isn't criminal.

[funetical]

From what I've read on other sources he harassed the guy about the safety issue and then they escalated into a full blown argument. As the cyclist went to exit the conversation he was shot. No one source has it nailed and I'm just spreading hearsay but, What are you going to do?