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**froze** · 10-07-2010, 02:47 AM

I get infinite mpg on my bike, because it doesn't use gas or electricity.

**ViBiker** · 10-07-2010, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by froze

I get infinite mpg on my bike, because it doesn't use gas or electricity.

And yet, you (froze), are recommending gas powered motorcycles and scooters! ...??? Sounds a bit ... hypocritical!

Ebikes and EAbikes are the ecological - economical alternative to gas powered transportation. Until electric cars become feasible - affordable, they are the "first step".

I especially like that, electric vs gas, penny for penny, EBikes get the equivalent of about 4000 mpg!!!

The first tenacious foray into the realm of energy independence.

**froze** · 10-07-2010, 08:23 PM

Wait, here we go again. Why bother? If you want rapid acceleration, flatten hills, cruise at a higher speed, then just buy a scooter! Why pedal a bike with 30 pounds or so of extra weight of the motor? Of course your going to get tired trying to pedal home because of the additional weight. Just stay away from any of these e-bikes or scooters made in China, they can get you killed.

**ViBiker** · 10-08-2010, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by froze

Wait, here we go again. Why bother? If you want rapid acceleration, flatten hills, cruise at a higher speed, then just buy a scooter! ...

In my opinion:
I'm afraid that a scooter, while being more energy efficient than a car or motorcycle, makes insufficient headway towards independence from Oil, it merely prolongs the dependence!

**froze** · 10-08-2010, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ViBiker

In my opinion:
I'm afraid that a scooter, while being more energy efficient than a car or motorcycle, makes insufficient headway towards independence from Oil, it merely prolongs the dependence!

Huh? If your using the motor on an E-Bike your doing the same thing, making insufficient headway towards independence from oil. Now if your not using the motor on an e-bike then you would be making some headway...but if your not using the motor then why bother with an e-bike when you can just get a regular old fashion pedal bike.

I'm sorry but I think e-bikes are just a trend that is completely useless. Either get a scooter that can get 100 mpg or pedal a bicycle and be done with it.

Word of caution though, any motorized scooter, or even an e-bike, made in China is a very unsafe and unreliable purchase. Chinese made scooters have been very prone to horrendous brake problems leading to very poor stopping abilities. Reliability issues are rampant with these products as well, with some parts impossible to get once it breaks, and the parts you can get can take 3 to 6 months to get them.

**ViBiker** · 10-08-2010, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by froze

Huh? If your using the motor on an E-Bike your doing the same thing, making insufficient headway towards independence from oil. Now if your not using the motor on an e-bike then you would be making some headway...but if your not using the motor then why bother with an e-bike when you can just get a regular old fashion pedal bike.

I'm sorry but I think e-bikes are just a trend that is completely useless. Either get a scooter that can get 100 mpg or pedal a bicycle and be done with it. ...

You seem confused! An E-bike, Ebike, EAbike etc. is an E-l-e-c-t-r-i-c bike, not gas.

What do you think the "E" stands for?

US electricity is produced from coal, hydro-electric, nuclear, & alternative (solar, wind, thermal etc.).
Oil powered generation plants still exist but are maintained as emergency back-up or "reserve". Not, typically, for production.

**froze** · 10-08-2010, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ViBiker

You seem confused! An E-bike, Ebike, EAbike etc. is an E-l-e-c-t-r-i-c bike, not gas.

What do you think the "E" stands for?

US electricity is produced from coal, hydro-electric, nuclear, & alternative (solar, wind, thermal etc.).
Oil powered generation plants still exist but are maintained as emergency back-up or "reserve". Not, typically, for production.

Just because you love to smoke pot doesn't mean I don't know what E stands for! All you leftest sit around chanting about not using foreign oil and reduce use of fossil fuel (and fossil fuel is used in our generation plants), and yet somehow you think electric bikes and cars will solve the problem...IT DOESN'T! In addition 9% of the gasoline we use comes from America, the rest from foreign sources. And your much touted nuclear fuel comes from Canada, Australia, Kazakhstan and Russia...gee, foreign fuel. And we only get 2% of our electricity from wind and another 0.1 pecent from the sun...hardly a scratch in the bucket total from both. AND we only get 6.8 percent from hydro sources. So we get the bulk of our electricity from fossil fuel and foreign sources.

Right now electric cars and bikes are cheaper to run, but if the trend toward battery powered stuff increases that will put a huge strain on our electrical grid which is borderline now, which means the government will have to spend hundreds of billions of dollars to update our grid, and those cost will be past on to us in the form of much higher electricity rates, thus the cost to operate a battery powered car will equal that of a gasoline car, and maybe even exceed the cost of gas.