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01-28-2012, 12:04 PM
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Sprocket Ratio = Pedal Assist MPH
For most builds, or purchases, people should take into consideration the pedal assist capability of the bike.
(RPM - crank-pedal Revolutions Per Minute - pedal rate)
60 rpm is considered a casual-sustainable rate
90 rpm is, a more, top sustainable rate
Figured - rpm x ratio x wheel size = mph
(rpm x 60min) x (Front T / Rear T) x (Wheel " x 3.14) / 63360 = mph
26" wheels - My EZip Trailz (OEM)
(60rpm x 60min) x (44T/14T) x (26" x 3.14) / (12" x 5280') = 14.57mph
(90rpm x 60min) x (44T/14T) x (26" x 3.14) / (12" x 5280') = 21.86mph
26" wheels - My EZip Trailz (w/32-11T upgrade)
(60rpm x 60min) x (44T/11T) x (26" x 3.14) / (12" x 5280') = 18.55mph
(90rpm x 60min) x (44T/11T) x (26" x 3.14) / (12" x 5280') = 27.83mph
26" wheels - My Black Widow (Upgraded 34-11T)
(60rpm x 60min) x (48T/11T) x (26" x 3.14) / (12" x 5280') = 20.24mph
(90rpm x 60min) x (48T/11T) x (26" x 3.14) / (12" x 5280') = 30.35mph
27" Wheels - My old 12 speed
(60rpm x 60min) x (52T/12T) x (27" x 3.14) / (12" x 5280') = 20.87mph
(90rpm x 60min) x (52T/12T) x (27" x 3.14) / (12" x 5280') = 31.31mph
700c = 28" wheels - My Haro Express Deluxe
(60rpm x 60min) x (48T/11T) x (28" x 3.14) / (12" x 5280') = 21.80mph
(90rpm x 60min) x (48T/11T) x (28" x 3.14) / (12" x 5280') = 32.69mph
29'er Wheels
(60rpm x 60min) x (48T/11T) x (29" x 3.14) / (12" x 5280') = 22.58mph
(90rpm x 60min) x (48T/11T) x (29" x 3.14) / (12" x 5280') = 33.86mph
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Last edited by ViBiker; 01-30-2012 at 01:45 AM.
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01-28-2012, 04:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ViBiker
For most builds, or purchases, people should take into consideration the pedal assist capability of the bike.
(BPM - Beats Per Minute - pedal rate)
60 bpm is considered a casual-sustainable rate
90 bpm is, a more, top sustainable rate
Figured - bpm x ratio x wheel size = mph
(bpm x 60min) x (Front T / Rear T) x (Wheel " x 3.14) / 63360 = mph
26" wheels - My EZip Trailz (OEM)
(60bpm x 60min) x (44T/14T) x (26" x 3.14) / (12" x 5280') = 14.57mph
(90bpm x 60min) x (44T/14T) x (26" x 3.14) / (12" x 5280') = 21.86mph
26" wheels - My EZip Trailz (w/32-11T upgrade)
(60bpm x 60min) x (44T/11T) x (26" x 3.14) / (12" x 5280') = 18.55mph
(90bpm x 60min) x (44T/11T) x (26" x 3.14) / (12" x 5280') = 27.83mph
26" wheels - My Black Widow (Upgraded 34-11T)
(60bpm x 60min) x (48T/11T) x (26" x 3.14) / (12" x 5280') = 20.24mph
(90bpm x 60min) x (48T/11T) x (26" x 3.14) / (12" x 5280') = 30.35mph
27" Wheels - My old 12 speed
(60bpm x 60min) x (52T/12T) x (27" x 3.14) / (12" x 5280') = 20.87mph
(90bpm x 60min) x (52T/12T) x (27" x 3.14) / (12" x 5280') = 31.31mph
700c = 28" wheels - My Haro Express Deluxe
(60bpm x 60min) x (48T/11T) x (28" x 3.14) / (12" x 5280') = 21.80mph
(90bpm x 60min) x (48T/11T) x (28" x 3.14) / (12" x 5280') = 32.69mph
29'er Wheels
(60bpm x 60min) x (48T/11T) x (29" x 3.14) / (12" x 5280') = 22.58mph
(90bpm x 60min) x (48T/11T) x (29" x 3.14) / (12" x 5280') = 33.86mph
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Why wouldn't you use "RPM", the industry standard for things that go 'round, and save BPM for heart rate, also an industry standard?
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01-28-2012, 08:04 PM
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Many bikers tend to train, and adapt their pedal cadence, to the beat of various musical numbers, "getting their timing and rhythm right." It should be noted, the BPM music timing is, per footfall. So, 2 Beats per revolution.
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Last edited by ViBiker; 02-02-2012 at 02:20 PM.
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01-29-2012, 04:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ViBiker
RPM sounds more associated with tire speed.
PC for Pedal Cadence was way too confusing.
BPM - Beats Per Minute - from the music industry, as in timing and music, seemed most appropriate.(In fact, cadence is also a musical term)
Many bikers tend to train, and adapt their pedal cadence, to the beat of various musical numbers, "getting their timing and rhythm right."
And ... "Beats Per Minute - pedal timing", seems perfectly clear ... ?
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How can "pedal cadence" be too confusing, when cadence is the basis for all things cycling? This is a bicycle forum. Despite the rubbish you have just posted about musical numbers, any cyclist that that is doing any sort of real training is concerned with maintaining a certain cadence (which is the RPM of their cranks) and keeping their heart rate (BPM) within a specific range.
Besides, a gentlemen whose untimely passing followed my father's by two weeks has already provided the cycling world with this handy calculator.
Cheers,
Industry "Knows his resources" Hack
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01-29-2012, 10:59 AM
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I figured it was a DJ thing. iTunes database allows music to be sorted by BPM. Should a rider select music for his iPod that matches his desired heart rate or pedal cadence?
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01-29-2012, 01:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Industry_Hack
How can "pedal cadence" be too confusing,
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I don't believe anyone would recognize PC, or C, in a mathematical formula.
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01-29-2012, 02:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by qmsdc15
I figured it was a DJ thing. iTunes database allows music to be sorted by BPM. Should a rider select music for his iPod that matches his desired heart rate or pedal cadence?
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The program is designed for training your pedal cadence.
Music has long been used as a physical training aid, for developing ... rhythm.
Hence the musical cadence from Army drill Sergeants.
Teaching the lowly grunts, how to shuffle their feet.
(Sorry ... Armed forces drill training! Didn't intend to slight any branch.)
Of course, you should monitor your heart rate, at least during training,
Much of the purpose of training, is to find your optimal cadence, then to gradually improve upon it. (duration, speed, effort - singularly, or combinations, thereof)
To improve your muscular efficiency!
And yes, your heart is one of those muscles.
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01-29-2012, 03:58 PM
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Cadence
"Stripes" also has some nice examples!
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Last edited by ViBiker; 02-09-2012 at 04:35 AM.
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01-29-2012, 05:20 PM
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I like to listen to The Pretenders "Back on the Chain Gang" when I ride.
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01-29-2012, 05:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by qmsdc15
I like to listen to The Pretenders "Back on the Chain Gang" when I ride.
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My guess is that The Pretenders would make a ride much more enjoyable than something like Pantera. Does that happen to coincide with a higher cadence, or a lower one? Because if you follow Gunnie's approach, you'll be at the back of the pack, grinding along at 60 RPM.
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