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10-19-2010, 07:20 AM
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FYI - Snell is still only a benchmark as it's not the official testing methodology. The Department of Transportation (DOT) is the only official testing requirement by Federal Law. A helmet can have a Snell rating, but if it doesn't have a DOT, it won't be accepted as legal.
Also, keep in mind that you are kind of comparing apples and oranges when associating motorcycle helmets with bicycle helmets. Both have vary different requirements as to providing for the safety of the rider. I say this as an avid motorcyclist and also a bicycle rider. Look at the difference between road, mountain and downhill helmets as well as skate boarding.
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10-19-2010, 08:01 AM
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Can a moderator lock this thread as I believe the OP has received an answer to the original question. cheers!
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10-19-2010, 02:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by awinter
Can a moderator lock this thread as I believe the OP has received an answer to the original question. cheers!
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Why do you care? You don't have to continue reading it, and you can delete in your mailbox without ever having to open it and read it. cheers!
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10-19-2010, 08:34 PM
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True Snell isn't required, but comparing the Snell standard to the DOT it's night an day. Snell FAR exceeds DOT requirements. You see DOT on Snell helmets anyway. As far as legality, where I am if you are I think its 18, there is no requirement to wear a helmet at all on a motorcycle.
What I was hoping to find out is just how much higher the Snell standard is on a bicycle vs the CPSC standard on everyone else.
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10-19-2010, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by photosbymark
True Snell isn't required, but comparing the Snell standard to the DOT it's night an day. Snell FAR exceeds DOT requirements. You see DOT on Snell helmets anyway. As far as legality, where I am if you are I think its 18, there is no requirement to wear a helmet at all on a motorcycle.
What I was hoping to find out is just how much higher the Snell standard is on a bicycle vs the CPSC standard on everyone else.
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According to Bell, the new CPSC certification has the same tests that Snell B95 is. That's why Bell and a slew of other manufactures decided this year to opt out of the Snell certification. Bell sent me a PDF file on this, but not being computer literate I can't copy it to the notepad then paste it here.
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10-20-2010, 05:09 AM
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Makes more sense why there are not more of them with Snell on it. Too bad. I have a lot more trust in anything coming from Snell. Hopefully Snell will come up with a new bike standard, just as they update the standard on all the other products. The motorcycle just came out with a 2010 standard. The Special Activities SA (racing) standard for 2010 should be out soon too, but hopefully Snell won't just phase out bicycle testing. From a business standpoint it might make sense though
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10-20-2010, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by photosbymark
Makes more sense why there are not more of them with Snell on it. Too bad. I have a lot more trust in anything coming from Snell. Hopefully Snell will come up with a new bike standard, just as they update the standard on all the other products. The motorcycle just came out with a 2010 standard. The Special Activities SA (racing) standard for 2010 should be out soon too, but hopefully Snell won't just phase out bicycle testing. From a business standpoint it might make sense though
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Supposedly Snell charge the helmet manufactures a lot of money to get those stickers, and bicycle helmet manufactures frowned it, that's why a lot of helmet makers before CPSC changed their testing just went with CPSC and not Bell; now that CPSC changed it to meet or exceed the Snell the few manufactures that were using the Bell left.
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11-17-2010, 01:54 AM
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most helmets i find here are in the $30 range. as long as it saves me head, im all 4 it!
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