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Old 05-19-2017, 05:59 PM   #21
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Old 05-19-2017, 07:35 PM   #22
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I used a buncha sarcasm on the last page............but I also use bike frame for truing stand with brake pads adjusted just barely wider than the hoop. Yes, my hands/arms do have built in torque wrench.....and am sad that the only certification places are both in 1 state, far away.


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Old 05-19-2017, 08:20 PM   #23
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It's been shown many times that bike mechanics routinely overestimate their ability to judge torque correctly by feel alone. If I take my Carbon bike to a shop and see someone tightening a part on my frame without a torque wrench, that will be the last time I take it there. That said, I do my own wrenching so I don't have to worry about this scenario happening .
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Old 05-19-2017, 09:56 PM   #24
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And torque has to many variables which is why for high stress/harmonics the automotive and many others use torque to yield
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Thing is vs auto tools that set literally is enough tools to open a bike shop with two mechanics. Rush when you order your set go ahead and have one drop shipped to me. Thanks mate ! I'll hook you up sometime when I order something :P
Ok just send the address and hurry because if creeper gets one then there are only 2 left. And it's on sale now. Then when you order new tubes you can send the valve stem caps that you were going to throw away anyway to keep up your end of up the deal.

And instead of a punch on a headset I use a small length of 3/4" copper tubing. Copper is soft and doesn't damage anything. The copper will bend and deform but deliver enough to knock out.

Here's and oldie if anyone still wants to carefully remove an old Regina 5 speed freewheel.
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It's been shown many times that bike mechanics routinely overestimate their ability to judge torque correctly by feel alone. If I take my Carbon bike to a shop and see someone tightening a part on my frame without a torque wrench, that will be the last time I take it there. That said, I do my own wrenching so I don't have to worry about this scenario happening .
BTW, I'm not advocating not using a TW especially on those high dollar CF parts
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Ok just send the address and hurry because if creeper gets one then there are only 2 left. And it's on sale now. Then when you order new tubes you can send the valve stem caps that you were going to throw away anyway to keep up your end of up the deal.

And instead of a punch on a headset I use a small length of 3/4" copper tubing. Copper is soft and doesn't damage anything. The copper will bend and deform but deliver enough to knock out.

Here's and oldie if anyone still wants to carefully remove an old Regina 5 speed freewheel.
Sounds great !
Glad you could see the value of the deal
I like that copper tubing idea. It is great thinking.
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Geez, is all that stuff really necessary? All I have is tweezers, 2 screwdrivers, pliers, some allens, scissors & a swiss army knife. That's all I used up in Ashland to get certified at UBI.............didn't even have a spoke wrench. All the fancy people laughed.......until they found out who graduated at top...........
I'm with you on the allens.

http://www.bicycling.com/maintenance/bicycle-repair/yourbolt-decoder

This one is a handy tool.
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