Bike and Cycling Forum > Bike Rack > Beginners Forum > Which water bottle cage?

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-25-2010, 04:38 AM   #1
Junior Member
Bikes
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 6
Which water bottle cage?

Please recommend a water bottle cage. My water bottle is too fat for a standard cage. It is a 25-oz. Eco-Vessel Insulated Stainless Steel Bottle (click the link). The waist is 77 mm and the base and top are is 86 mm in diameter.

My bicycle has standard frame-mount cage mounting bolts.

I am thinking that a side-access cage might work, but most of the web ads do not mention what size bottles the cages can accommodate.


dddiam is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2010, 10:48 AM   #2
Pedaling Old Man
 
gs46's Avatar
Bikes
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 68
You may try an aluminum wire cage and modify it by bending it to the shape you need.
__________________
You can make me grow old, but you can't make me grow up!:rolleyes:
gs46 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2010, 03:33 PM   #3
Junior Member
Bikes
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 6
Thanks for the suggestion. I had tried that, but the new shape would not grip the bottle. I considered adding a velcro strap, but I need to find one, and I do not know how secure it will be.

Alternatively I might try a side access cage. That might grip the smaller waist of the bottle, without needing to get around the wider base. I found a couple of side-access cages on the web, but have not seen them in stores.

I posted this question because large capacity, double-walled bottles are becoming more common-place, so I thought that large form-factor cages might be also be hitting the market to accommodate them.
dddiam is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2010, 11:30 PM   #4
Member
 
tomk's Avatar
Bikes
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 64
Search amazon for adjustable cage:
Amazon.com: Topeak Modula Cage EX Modified Shape Bicycle Waterbottle Cage: Sports & Outdoors: Reviews, Prices & more

Or just get a couple of standard size insulated bottles by Camelbak:
CAMELBAK Podium Chill Jacket Insulated Bottle - Eastern Mountain Sports
tomk is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2010, 11:37 PM   #5
TwoJ
 
rola643's Avatar
Bikes
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 2,436
Liked 5 Times on 5 Posts
Likes Given: 8

Quote:
Originally Posted by tomk View Post
Or just get a couple of standard size insulated bottles by Camelbak:
CAMELBAK Podium Chill Jacket Insulated Bottle - Eastern Mountain Sports
I don't wanna be the simple pimple on the arse of progress, but that was what I was thinking

Is there a particular reason you want use that water bottle vs any others ?
__________________
I spent half of my life riding bikes. The other half I wasted.

Last edited by rola643; 10-25-2010 at 11:57 PM.
rola643 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2010, 12:34 AM   #6
Member
 
tomk's Avatar
Bikes
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 64
Maybe Because it is heavier and hard to open while riding?
tomk is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2010, 02:26 AM   #7
Junior Member
Bikes
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 6
Quote:
Originally Posted by tomk View Post
Thank you for all of your suggestions. The Topeak Modula Cage looks like a possibility. I will try one, and if it works, I will buy my wife one.

I do have some personal preferences, requirements and biases with regard to water bottles. It is not a common perspective, but FWIIW, I will share it.

We do not drink out of plastic bottles. Even BPA-free plastic is controversial, especially if it comes in contact with anything citrus in the water or with a hot liquid. All plastics leach petrochemicals. Alluminum causes Alzheimer’s disease. Stainless steel is safest. Double-walled stainless steel keeps your drink cold and minimizes sweating.

The user reviews and ratings for various bottles vary considerably. After much research, we settled on these bottles. A 25-oz bottle is about right for a short trip. We do not refill bottles with unfiltered tap water. That is also a controversial area, having to do with acceptable carcinogen levels.

Finally, we bought the bottles before we bought the bikes. It is hard to find the best bottle; it is hit or miss whether or not you will like it when it arrives; and we already have a financial and time investment in our current bottles.

Why throw away our favorite bottles when we simply need to find a cage that fits.

Other people would make different value judgments and decisions, but that is ours.

Last edited by dddiam; 10-26-2010 at 03:25 AM. Reason: I didn't like my original attitude.
dddiam is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2010, 11:47 AM   #8
Member
 
tomk's Avatar
Bikes
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 64
dddiam - just having fun with you! Topeak makes pretty good stuff. Well - you put a lot of thought into your bottle choice.

I've been using standard size cages and bottles on my bikes for almost 20 years now - the bottles are recyclable, cheap, light and replacements can be found almost anywhere. Otherwise I use a refillable stainless bottle for normal drinking water when running around and travel. We use PuR filters at home for a drinking and cooking water as well.

However, I have been curious about the potential dangers of the mold release and tooling oils - not to mention the iron and other metal particles - that get transferred to stainless during the manufacturing process. In my experience a lot of stainless bottles, at least when new, impart a very "off" taste to the water that eventually goes away after repeated washings. Electro-polishing to a near mirror finish would be the safest way to treat the inside of a water bottle - very much like stainless fittings used in food preparation. I realize that stainless is considered a safer alternative to plastic.....but a lot of stainless bottles are now made in china and sold very cheaply - too cheaply IMHO. That makes me wonder about the quality of the washing and polishing process and what is left on the stainless. As I recall from my engineering days....most food fittings and vessels were made from 304L stainless.

Good luck with the Topeak! I hope it works for you.
tomk is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2010, 07:02 PM   #9
Junior Member
Bikes
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 6
Quote:
Originally Posted by tomk View Post
However, I have been curious about the potential dangers of the mold release and tooling oils - not to mention the iron and other metal particles - that get transferred to stainless during the manufacturing process. In my experience a lot of stainless bottles, at least when new, impart a very "off" taste to the water that eventually goes away after repeated washings.

Good luck with the Topeak! I hope it works for you.
Thanks, Tom.

When new, I soaked the bottle in white vinegar and baking soda. Rinsed it in that solution, and then with clear water. That is probably a good initial treatment for any kitchen appliance, also.

Quote:
Originally Posted by tomk View Post
We use PuR filters at home for a drinking and cooking water as well.
I used PuR for many years, but was not satisfied with the results. Only when we switched from filtered water to spring water, did my wife's teeth stop staining. I found a web site with comparitive water filter specs, and the PuR specs were so-so. Then we gave up on bottled spring water for many reasons. We found a new filter with excellent specs and lab reports -- the New Wave Enviro 10-Stage Filter, which sits beside your kitchen sink. Expensive but excellent filtration (they claim that it costs about 7 cents per gallon). If you like, I can send you the lab reports.

Last edited by dddiam; 10-26-2010 at 07:05 PM.
dddiam is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2010, 05:26 AM   #10
Rat Biker
 
bikebum1975's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 328
Now I don't know the brand think made by Bell and it's at Wally world they make one with an adjustable strap that will hold quart size Gatorade bottles. That might work for you it's got if I recall correctly a rubber strap to adjust to the size of your bottle.


__________________
You might be a cyclist if....
Your bike is worth more than your car.
You put more miles on your bike than your car.
Weather forecasts can be broken down into 2 categories: good biking weather, bad biking weather.

Honey, it's just a bicycle. and i REALLY need it to excercise, and to ride it to work.(hehe)

Someday when I grow up I will probably lose interest in toys with wheels, but until then..
bikebum1975 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Gel Bot Water Bottle Xela Training / Health 23 06-01-2010 04:20 PM
what size cage? coiler05 Mountain Biking 6 12-02-2009 04:56 PM
Jumps Into Water WonderBread BMX / Trials 7 09-14-2009 09:42 PM
Water KFaulkner Training / Health 16 08-13-2009 09:16 PM
Rebuilding Water bottle battery for lights livendadream Lights / Electronics 4 07-23-2009 05:17 PM

FOLLOW US ON
PHOTO OF THE DAY
Unforgettable Windy 2nd Century

Newest Classifieds