This is my stock 2008 Scott Sub 20 I bought while stationed at Kunsan S.Korea for a year. It is an '08 modle that someone had ordered and it either came in too late or they decided they didn't want it. So $100 was knocked of the MSRP. Then one of our civilian co-workers talked to the lady at the store for me and got another $400 off, YES!!! $400 aint a bad deal!