Agreed, excellent bibs. Sadly, whilst the milles are my most comfortable bibs, I find the fabric on mine is deteriorating in the small of the back area. The dealer says it's due to sweat so, basically, bad luck. After around 3000 mile, that means they work out pretty expensive for me and is certainly a major consideration for replacement. None of my other make bibs are similarly suffering and have, in some cases, done greater mileage.