I broke my old hardtail Sworks M2 2 weeks ago and picked up a Sette Reken frame up from Pricepoint after reading the reviews over at mtbr. $90 for the frame (yes its a HT), $30 for the top pull derailleur and the only other new item on the bike is the RS Sids at $225. Got my old Mavic 517 with Hope hubs and XTR V brakes. I was crushed when the M2 broke, but I am very happy so far, it's an incredible frame for the price. Climbs just as good as the old M2. I only ever bought one new mt bike from the shop and that was my DB Ascent back in like '89, if you got the tools its the only way to go.