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I C E C R E A M specifically Klondike bars, Ruffles and Hell'va good and last but not least popcorn!!!

Should we move on to beverages ? :D
 

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I C E C R E A M specifically Klondike bars, Ruffles and Hell'va good and last but not least popcorn!!!

Should we move on to beverages ? :D
Sure! What is your favorite beverage?

If I were to add mine it would be Cherry Coke with movie theatre popcorn or root beer that a dearly love!
 

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Sure! What is your favorite beverage?

If I were to add mine it would be Cherry Coke with movie theatre popcorn or root beer that a dearly love!
lol, sorry I was being....flippant :D But as far as that goes, it would be Canada Dry Ginger Ale. There is another thread for favorite beverages.
 

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Pizza, crackers of all kinds but Graham first, root beer, Andy Cap Hot Fries or Munchos, baked goods but especially cookies & pie, vanilla malt shakes...... at this point, (seriously) i asked my Bride what types of junk food i like. The look on her face was priceless as she paused, then said: “ALL of it!”

I’ve always said there’s a fat man trying to escape this body.
 

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I'm jealous reading this thread. My wife does the grocery shopping and she refuses to buy junk food. However, when we are out, especially around lunchtime, it's extremely difficult for me to pass by a Moe's without stopping. So I guess my favorite junk food is their steak nachos. :)
 

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I'm jealous reading this thread. My wife does the grocery shopping and she refuses to buy junk food. However, when we are out, especially around lunchtime, it's extremely difficult for me to pass by a Moe's without stopping. So I guess my favorite junk food is their steak nachos. :)
lol, I thought for sure you were about to say spaghetti :D
 
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My wife is a pasta freak! She is Italian and breads and pastas seem to be as a religious experience as anything. I am German and Irish so anything meat that has been pounded with red cabbage or with potatoes makes me feel as if I were in Heaven.

However, on my somewhat modified Keto diet for the last two months I have cut carbs so drastically I lost 16 lbs. My goal is to hit 185 and remain.

Speaking of Italian food......my favorite restaurant in town has one of the best chicken cacciatore’s I have ever eat. Their chicken piccata is to die for too.
 

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My wife and I eat pretty healthily.
And many times we make somewhat healthier versions of what might be considered junk food - like spaghetti (wheat or veggie pasta, low fat/low salt sauce) and pizza (made with home-made cauliflower dough, turkey pepperoni, home-made sauce), etc.
Not quite junk food but we do both eat a LOT of peanut butter, especially before or after a ride or run - we have creamy, we have chunky, we have honey peanut butter, and we have chocolate peanut butter and we tend to just dip in. And after a walk the dogs come go to the kitchen and wait by the cupboard to wait for their peanut butter.
And we usually have an unhealthy dessert on Saturday evenings. Pudding with whipped cream,
I guess that's our junk food.
But we also treat ourselves once a month or so to something - maybe a donut from Dunkin' or something like that, and a few times a year we order a pizza from a chain (and make our own wings in the air fryer).
 

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I eat a fair amount of peanut butter. Most brands contain a fair it of processed sugar, but not so much it worries me ... and all are high in fat because peanuts are seeds .... like peanut eggs, sort of.... fat and protein.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with dietary fat, either. lot of people seem to think "lo-fat" means healthy, but unless you are a bodybuilder a week before competition, 20-30 percent of your calories should be fat. Your body needs it and it is great fuel too.

Fat got a bad rap because the people who make money on sugar wanted a different food type to blame.

Fact is, what is unhealthy is more lifestyle than diet. You could live on pretty much pure fat ---look at Eskimos all winter, for example---and be really healthy so long as you burn off what you take in.... it is just fuel, after all. But foods high in fat tend to be high in calories (fat is dense---equivalent to muscle, while carbs are about half as calorie-dense (I am sure most of you know all this... just trying to sound smart while showing how stupid I can be.) So Sedentary people eating high-fat food can take in a lot more calories before their stomachs get full.

Active people can eat just about anything because it is broken down and burned up and is gone in 12 hours.

I joke about "junk food" but relaly, only low-nutrient food is "junk," and that depends on one's lifestyle and situation.

I used to eat a clean, fairly high-fat diet and have about 10-percent body fat because I burned 5K calories a day. After really extreme weekends I would eat two or three Ben and Jerries ---before my regular meal---because I had burned an extra 1500 calories and could afford to. But most days I couldn't afford anything which didn't offer the proper blend of protein, fat, and carbs because I was generally eating on the run (or in short windows) and didn't have time or stomach space for anything but nutrient-rich food.

Was Ben and Jerries "junk food"? It never hurt my health any .... until i got sedentary, and then I proved that a person can get hugely fat eating rice and beans. So ... rice and beans are "Junk food"?
 

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Kettle chips. I could eat an entire bag.
As mentioned earlier, my wife doesn't buy junk food. However, when we have get togethers at my daughters house, she always has a large bowl of Tostitos and salsa and a large bowl of kettle chips and onion dip. I haven't decided which of the two I like the most so I over indulge in consuming both. The only time the wife buys chips and other junk food is on New Years eve, and candy for Halloween.
 

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There is absolutely nothing wrong with dietary fat, either. lot of people seem to think "lo-fat" means healthy, but unless you are a bodybuilder a week before competition, 20-30 percent of your calories should be fat. Your body needs it and it is great fuel too.
We eat balanced and healthy so we get enough fat content normally - our peanut butter consumption is a bit excessive sometimes possibly. In fact, during vacations, we end up losing a few pounds each, possibly because of our decreased peanut butter consumption ;)

Fact is, what is unhealthy is more lifestyle than diet.
Hmmm, I totally disagree and this seems to go against most medical science. Good lifestyle, exercise, AND good eating will get you much further than eating crap and expecting that doing exercise is going to carry you through no matter what you eat.
 

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Hmmm, I totally disagree and this seems to go against most medical science. Good lifestyle, exercise, AND good eating will get you much further than eating crap and expecting that doing exercise is going to carry you through no matter what you eat.
Yeah, there are differing points of view which are valid in different extremes ....

A person who eats less-than-awesome food but exercises a lot will burn calories (so as to not get fat) and will get exercise (so as to not decay.)

A person who eats nothing but brown rice and beans and does not exercise can get fat and unhealthy.

People like to say "You can't outrun a crappy diet" by which they mean, "No amount of exercise can make up for bad eating habits," but every time I have heard that used, it was in reference to weight loss while exercising .... not in reference to a healthy person exercising and eating cookies and ice cream every night, but matching caloric intake to caloric output.

At the far extreme, one cannot be Exceedingly healthy-like "Ride a Grand Tour" healthy---eating junk food because of what are called "empty calories"---but that is an unbalanced diet generally, where there is not enough protein or carbs and too much fat---but there is really no "empty" calorie. A calorie--energy recovered by digesting food, not the other kind---is neutral. Fat and protein have the same caloric density, for instance. Your body doesn't care, ti burns whatever.

The idea is that if you are trying to take your performance to the absolute limit, you need a very precise balance, because it is hard to get enough calories, and enough protein and carbs (which are needed for glycogen and for easy digesting while riding) by eating high-fat foods. (Tour riders (I have heard, but I heard it from race commentators who had been riders) actually get sick of eating because they need to take in so many calories (I'd bet 8K per day or more) and since the stomach is only so big (I think but I forget that the body can absorb 200 cal/hour?) (Yes. https://forum.slowtwitch.com/Slowtw...s it can,but body can absorb anout 150 to 200.)

Of course, most people on this site are not competing in Grands Tours. And most of us don't have to watch the composition of every meal with absolute precision. Unless you are trying to stay right at that limit, you can play around with "perfect" nutrition ... you have enough fat to get through to the next meal and you are probably burning 2k-3k per day instead of three-four times that much.

So yes ... in terms of losing weight I know from grim personal experience, one cannot outrun a bad diet. In terms of being just normally healthy and active, one can carry a "bad" diet a long way .... but again, the devil is in the definitions. What is "bad" in this context? Nothing but packaged cookies? Nothing but McDonalds chemical shakes? Nothing but ice cream?

As long as a person gets the nutrients one needs---which is what, 60 grams of protein for a 200-lb active male? (This calculator (https://globalrph.com/medcalcs/protein-requirements-daily/) says 66, and these two sites (https://healthyeating.sfgate.com/much-protein-day-active-male-4248.html and https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/how-much-protein-per-day) say "The Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics reports that men need 1.4 to 1.8 grams of protein per kilogram of body weight each day to build muscle mass. This means active men trying to build muscle should consume 0.64 to 0.82 grams of protein per pound of body weight each day" and "
The DRI (Dietary Reference Intake) is 0.8 grams of protein per kilogram of body weight, or 0.36 grams per pound. This amounts to: 56 grams per day for the average sedentary man."

So if you are getting 56-66 grams opf protein, assuming you are not exercising more than a couple hours a day, and replacing calories as you burn them ... you can eat all kinds of stuff and stay healthy.
 
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