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when i click on the it says they have all been removed thus probably not very reliable seller?????
 

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Sorry, they should work now
 

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When you consider that many companies choose to have their own brands made in China, it shouldn't surprise you to see Chinese-made carbon fiber frames on eBay. And the painful truth (sorry, SG) is that even the most respectable names will find their designs copied and sold much cheaper. I know this for a fact, as there was a guy on another site that was selling frames built to Wilier's spec, right out of the factory. After I got that sorted out, I apologized to the Wilier rep at Interbike, but he was kind of rude. Like it was my fault.

Before you pull the trigger on an eBay frame, go back and look at Rola's Trek. That's a Trek, from his local bike shop, and it self-destructed. Do you really want to trust a no-name frame with no dealer to back it up?
 

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Prepare to weep...

Busted Carbon

Most of what I see on there is top shelf stuff too.
 

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Prepare to weep...

Busted Carbon

Most of what I see on there is top shelf stuff too.
Hee hee! I have that same seat post! I guess it's just a matter of waiting now. I hope I don't become a "changed" man as a result! :eek:
 

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Are there any carbon frames that are any good? I know from the ATV world we would never use carbon for parts that carry load, because it's as brittle as fiberglass, it just makes good lightweight body parts and accessories.
 

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now that the links work... they seem nice.

Hack, the second link looks like a Pinnarello Dogma. you said to the same specs, so are they exactly the same minus paint. or are there some differences?

if they are the same the price is unbelievable.
 

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They may look exactly the same, and they may even be made using the same molds. But there is no assurance that they used the same quality of materials, or that the layup of the carbon matting is the same, or that they followed the same process. And of course, the quality assurance may not be the same.

Unlike metal tubing, where the thickness is mostly uniform, or at least predictable, carbon fiber can suffer from a lack of material, or even a bubble in the resin, which can dramatically weaken it.
 

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After seeing what Rola is going through I don't think I will be making any carbon fiber purchases in the near future.
 

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A full carbon frame would be a waste for me. I am just an old man on an old bike. Slow and steady. But I was toying with the idea of maybe a seat post or handlebars. I saw somewhere that there are carbon chain rings. How can carbon hold up to that stress?
 

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I'm too much of a Fred not to have a carbon frame. They are just too sexy!
 

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I know many people that have purchased these no name frames from China. Some were completely satisfied with their purchases and continue to ride them. Others got real crap and returned them immediately.

Do not expect these bikes to be of the same quality that they appear to be the same as! They are not made to the same specification as the real thing! Let alone dealing with warranty issues can be sketchy at best. This has been discussed ad nauseum on another forum I belong to and there as many different frames as there are opinions about these frames. I have been tempted on numerous occasions but have never had the guts to pull the trigger on one of these frames. I can honestly say I have not regretted paying more for my frame and having peace of mind than saving a little money and left with a bitter taste in my mouth.
 

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I'm so afraid of carbon, that I don't think I'd enjoy riding a carbon bike. I'm starting to think about other fork options if I went with a Cannondale CAAD-10, or with a Motobecane Ti.
 

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It's just that I'm hearing and seeing evidence of carbon frame failures way more than any other frame material. And I live (and ride) in an area of the country that has the largest number of pedestrian fatalities in the country. Now, I know that car vs. bike will pretty much destroy many frames, but there is too much carbon failure that is not related to that.
 

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You see and hear of carbon failure because that is what a majority of high end road bikes are made of. You will hear to some extent how much we love our CF bikes but after the newness wears of we don't talk about the bike. Next thing you hear is that a CF bike failed and that it is a manufacturing defect. I can understand your worry but I can honestly say that out of 30 people that I ride only 2 or 3 bikes are not CF. I have ridden with these people for 4 years now an average of 50 miles every Saturday and have never seen one of their frames fail. Of course people are going to publicize when their frame fails, it is natural for us to so that. I have 2009 Look 586 that has over 10k miles on it on rough and chip seal roads. My Specialized Roubaix has almost 3k miles on it and three no no signs on failure or stress to the frame from my fat butt riding it. I really wouldn't worry about riding a CF bike honestly.
 

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...I can honestly say that out of 30 people that I ride only 2 or 3 bikes are not CF...
That's the other reason for me to avoid carbon! :p

So I probably won't sweat the CAAD-10 or a Ti bike with a carbon fork! :thumbsup:
 
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