Out Lawing Geared and bikes with shocks from racing

Actually its perfectly legal. In fact, mongoose even made a 3 speed, 1 in rear travel bmx race frame in the mid 90's.

The reason DJ and slalom bikes are allowed in BMX is because it is classified under the "cruiser" class, which means any bike 24in tire or bigger. Now they should never be racing 20in bikes as that is a different class.


And no industry, they don't get spanked. I have no issue tearing a guy on a top end bmx cruiser up on my urban/4x bike. Whole ordeal is 4x is basically dh bmx racing. It's completely changed since dual slalom. Your seeing more hardtails and stiffer suspension now making the bikes actually feel better than the bmx counterparts.


But yes, ABA and NBL allow them. Your screwed. its nothing about them being too cheap for a bmx bike. Its how the bikes feel. I absolutely hate how my bmx feels now since I race DH mtb and ride urban and 4x. My bmx bike has an awkward low down riding style and geometry, while my mountain bikes have a higher riding slung back feeling. Its easier to move around a 4x bike than a cruiser. All preferance. I actually like the fact more people are getting off bmx cruisers and onto 4x bikes. Its helping progress racing, and bringing a whole new style of riding and riders to the bmx scene.


And no benny, your thinking about "preloading" from a bmx stand point. You don't use suspension to "bump you up" you don't use it to help you jump. Its not like it used to be in the early 90's with those crap suspension forks they had. All the 4x forks do is soak up hard landings. Just like on my dh bike, I don't preload my 8in of travel when I jump, I just huck off the lip. Same on the 4x bike. Your not cheating by using suspension. In any case it will make them slower because each pedal gets cushioned by the forks taking away from pedaling efficiency, meaning you should have no problem railing them on a bmx bike.

 

that would be against aba / nbl rules. I'm guessing it was more or less a non sanctioned event or was it?

 

What sanctioning league was it though? Class like x, inter, masters means nada because there is two of each. X cruiser, x 20, master 20, master cruiser. In any mainstream league you will never see the 2 mixed.

 

I know the rules to League racing. I never said I knew local race rules, which was why I was guessing you were racing in a non world wide event, not sanctioned by a league. IE my poinit in asking you "who was the sanctioning league".

Basically any serious biking league doesn't allow it. Period. Its an international league standard. Any true racer would know that.

And no, I have no been over there, but I have also raced all over. Leagues have standard rules. They won't vary. The whole point is, if a league allows 26in mountain bikes against 20in bikes it isn't what I call a "legit" league. Its more or less just a local fun league. No UCI affialited league would promote such a race, especially since UCI specifically goes against that kind of mixing.

 

Forgot to mention I raced 4 days a week for a decade in the aba. Saturday we would hit up 3 different aba races. So you figure I was doing 6 official aba bmx races a week, doing every state race, and as many national events as I had time for, as well as a few nbl races here and there.

 

Echihn you have sponsorship then?

 

LOL, your funny industry. Definitely cocky with being an "older guy". You may want to take a look at some of the other work I do. With airsoft, computers, trucks. You will quickly realize I'm not screwing around with crap. If you ever see me at an ABA nationals practice, call me out, get in the gate, and show me what you got.

And yes funetical, I did have a ride back when I was a die hard bmx racer. Since I mostly freeride mountain bike now, and do a few dh races a year, I don't bother pursuing sponsorships any more. NTM I have torn my body up over the years and have a major back issue going on that has kept me for quite a few races in the last 3 years.

 

Don't know what airsoft is then? O boy. Google it up. How bout this, google up "classic airsoft on wiki" after that and then you will see what I am involved with.

or look on my forum at bvguns.com, or at two spokes brother site at airsoftsociety.com

 

To inform you, I'm also a real steel gun smith.

The whole "point" in airsoft is called "milsim". You can't go shoot your buddies with real guns now can you? You can't do military simulations with real guns either.

People that don't get the point... well, they are missing the whole point to begin with. The whole point you shoot a buddy with a real gun, you go to jail.

Once again, you might want to ask me about stuff before you assume. I don't just play with toy guns, I modify and alter systems on real guns as well, ntm restore ww2 and older guns including breech loaders, muskets, etc. Also an avid hunter, and probably one of a few of the .458 LOTT collectors.


to add: I'm also one of the original people who designed a mag lock kit to make the AR-57 upper California legal. Similar to a bullet button, but uses an allen set screw through the top of the receiver.

Another add : what base is that .223? I'm having good luck with LMT uppers and lowers but always looking for reviews on others.