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Please follow trail rules. On Sunday a person crashed because 2 people were riding next to each other blocking Cal-Sag trail forcing him to go off the path. Please respect the rules and other riders.

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It’s usually not the cyclists who don’t get single file but the trail waddlers. They will be walking in a big clump completely blocking the trail and when you say “on your left” half of them move to the left and half to the right.
 

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It’s usually not the cyclists who don’t get single file but the trail waddlers. They will be walking in a big clump completely blocking the trail and when you say “on your left” half of them move to the left and half to the right.
What happened Sunday was that the cyclist was coming from behind the two that were riding next to each other. There was a corner and he couldn't stop so he went of the road and crashed. There is a lot of people riding this way and sometimes when I say: to the left they also move one to the left and one to the right. Sometimes I even get an f off for good measure. These people don't even know that this is a rule or a safety issue.
 

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Personally, trials like these just aren’t safe enough for cyclist and pedestrian traffic unless they have separated traffic lanes. Beyond that there are way to many different skill sets/levels of cyclist making it unpredictable at best for some of the reasons you mention. Regardless of rules and etiquette ultimately you are responsible for control of your bike when you ride for your as well as the publics safety.
 
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Personally, trials like these just aren’t safe enough for cyclist and pedestrian traffic unless they have separated traffic lanes. Beyond that there are way to many different skill sets/levels of cyclist making it unpredictable at best for some of the reasons you mention. Regardless of rules and etiquette ultimately you are responsible for control of your bike when you ride for your as well as the publics safety.
Everything you said is correct, however, there ARE lanes, the path is devided down the middle by a line. There would be no problems if everyone would stay in to the right in such a manner that it doesn't block the entire path. Also, these people didn't even stop to see if the person is ok and that is not acceptable regardless of who's fault it is. All I'm saying I to show some respect for the rules and each other!
 

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Sadly we can’t legislate kindness, respect and etiquette, and decent acceptable human behavior. Those traits are leaned, or not, at home.
 

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Sadly we can’t legislate kindness, respect and etiquette, and decent acceptable human behavior. Those traits are leaned, or not, at home.
I posted a picture of trail rules. They clearly state to stay to the right and single file. That is the rule. Those that don't like it can go ride somewhere else.
 

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I wish you well.
 

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I hope the cyclist that crashed wasn’t injured too badly and that their ride survived with nothing more than minor cosmetic damage.

Where i ride, we don’t have organized, paved bike trails. We do have hundreds of miles of Rail Trail (a new section opening soon) and on these we have hikers, runners, walkers, horses, cyclists of all skill levels and occasionally a rogue ATV or motorcyclists (illegally). On the rail trails, even with all of those people, i rarely saw conflict. Most everyone was being courteous.

Contrast to that, in my travels, i have had opportunity to ride organized, paved, lanes painted, signs posted and tons of users as well as pedestrians crossing MUPs.
They always had the attempt at great organization (buy the builders/management), but the users mostly seemed oblivious to the “rules of the road.”
We had fun on those paths, but i never felt remotely at ease, and saw way too many close calls and several accidents. It was stressful but also rewarding to push my cycling observation skills to new levels.
However, for the reason you mention, essentially people being people and doing what they want no matter the efforts taken to educate and create a safe environment, i don’t seek places like that to ride.
I’ll ride them, but only as a novelty and with heightened awareness and caution.
Stay safe out there and keep the rubber side down……unless you’re one of those trick riders. In that case, post some videos here.
 
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